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AMD's Athlon 64 Has Arrived: the Athlon 64 FX and Athlon 64 (and Intel's P4 Extreme) Reviewed
A New World Order: the Athlon 64 FX and Athlon 64 vs. the P4 Extreme, Continued
AMD swung back with the "Hammer" and has its old archenemy Intel with its P4 (Extreme) in its sights. After all, for x86 CPUs, the market leader stole an important share of the market from the former upstart AMD, especially in the past two quarters. At the moment, the standings are 15.7 percent (AMD) to 82.5 percent (Intel), with the remaining 1.8 percent divided among the marginal actors VIA and Transmeta.
x86-CPUs Market Share Profit Margin
Intel 82.5% 51 bis 54%
AMD 15.7% loss
VIA 1% no information
Transmeta 0.8% loss
The most important facts about the Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX-51 have been known for a long time from the workstation/server version of the Opteron (see article: Duel of the Elephants: AMD Hammer vs. Intel Xeon). The actual chief attraction of the Athlon 64 is that it was able to smooth out the bumps in the conversion from 32-bit to 64-bit software in this mass market of millions.
At the same time, Apple laid claim that with the G5 model, it would offer the world's most powerful desktop system. Apparently there are users who will believe these kinds of claims. Whatever - at least the G5 also has 64-bit support with regard to the software. Nevertheless, there is still no final operating system available for it.
Other 64-bitters worth mentioning are the Alpha 21364 (1150 MHz), IBM's PowerPC (1700 MHz) , Intel's Itanium 2 (1500 MHz) and, last but not least, Sun's UltraSparc III Cu (1200 MHz). Compared to the CPUs mentioned, which are only used in professional 64-bit environments, the Athlon 64 is the first CPU that could revolutionize the desktop market and thereby the mass market as well.
An interesting detail on the side: On September 8, 2003, Intel initiated a press event. During this event, they tried, among other things, to get the reporters present to above all employ benchmarks in comparative tests that know how to use the multi-threading capabilities of the P4. Apparently, Intel is worried about falling into oblivion as a result of the prevailing "Hammer" euphoria amongst the trade journals.
Therefore, AMD's advertising message, which is found in numerous media, is as follows: Buy a 64-bit processor today in order to be equipped for a later conversion to Windows XP 64. It doesn't sound too absurd if you consider that the 32-bit base (x86-32) will have to be replaced in the medium term. After all, at 32 bits, the physical address space is theoretically limited to 4 GB. And memory requirements are continuing to increase so that the barriers can only be broken by converting to 64-bits - apart from tricks such as registry extensions.
This argument alone has Intel in a position where it can't offer resistance with the P4 - even with the souped-up "P4 Extreme" version. In talks with editors, Intel's future planners like to hint that a desktop platform wouldn't benefit from 64 bits in the near future. Still, according to rumors, Intel has long since made provisions and integrated the 64-bit expansion "Yamhill" in the Prescott core planned for November 26. Even longstanding Intel employees in the 78,000 strong company, who have inside information, are not able to confirm or dispute the existence of a secret team of developers.
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AMD's Athlon 64 Has Arrived: the Athlon 64 FX and Athlon 64 (and Intel's P4 Extreme) Reviewed
A New World Order: the Athlon 64 FX and Athlon 64 vs. the P4 Extreme, Continued
AMD swung back with the "Hammer" and has its old archenemy Intel with its P4 (Extreme) in its sights. After all, for x86 CPUs, the market leader stole an important share of the market from the former upstart AMD, especially in the past two quarters. At the moment, the standings are 15.7 percent (AMD) to 82.5 percent (Intel), with the remaining 1.8 percent divided among the marginal actors VIA and Transmeta.
x86-CPUs Market Share Profit Margin
Intel 82.5% 51 bis 54%
AMD 15.7% loss
VIA 1% no information
Transmeta 0.8% loss
The most important facts about the Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX-51 have been known for a long time from the workstation/server version of the Opteron (see article: Duel of the Elephants: AMD Hammer vs. Intel Xeon). The actual chief attraction of the Athlon 64 is that it was able to smooth out the bumps in the conversion from 32-bit to 64-bit software in this mass market of millions.
At the same time, Apple laid claim that with the G5 model, it would offer the world's most powerful desktop system. Apparently there are users who will believe these kinds of claims. Whatever - at least the G5 also has 64-bit support with regard to the software. Nevertheless, there is still no final operating system available for it.
Other 64-bitters worth mentioning are the Alpha 21364 (1150 MHz), IBM's PowerPC (1700 MHz) , Intel's Itanium 2 (1500 MHz) and, last but not least, Sun's UltraSparc III Cu (1200 MHz). Compared to the CPUs mentioned, which are only used in professional 64-bit environments, the Athlon 64 is the first CPU that could revolutionize the desktop market and thereby the mass market as well.
An interesting detail on the side: On September 8, 2003, Intel initiated a press event. During this event, they tried, among other things, to get the reporters present to above all employ benchmarks in comparative tests that know how to use the multi-threading capabilities of the P4. Apparently, Intel is worried about falling into oblivion as a result of the prevailing "Hammer" euphoria amongst the trade journals.
Therefore, AMD's advertising message, which is found in numerous media, is as follows: Buy a 64-bit processor today in order to be equipped for a later conversion to Windows XP 64. It doesn't sound too absurd if you consider that the 32-bit base (x86-32) will have to be replaced in the medium term. After all, at 32 bits, the physical address space is theoretically limited to 4 GB. And memory requirements are continuing to increase so that the barriers can only be broken by converting to 64-bits - apart from tricks such as registry extensions.
This argument alone has Intel in a position where it can't offer resistance with the P4 - even with the souped-up "P4 Extreme" version. In talks with editors, Intel's future planners like to hint that a desktop platform wouldn't benefit from 64 bits in the near future. Still, according to rumors, Intel has long since made provisions and integrated the 64-bit expansion "Yamhill" in the Prescott core planned for November 26. Even longstanding Intel employees in the 78,000 strong company, who have inside information, are not able to confirm or dispute the existence of a secret team of developers.
this cost around 30k to 35k per piece!